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Migrants Tales – 5 Years In NZ And Getting Bored

January 27, 2011 15 comments

Continuing in our popular Migrants Tales series – first hand accounts of migrant life in New Zealand taken from locations around the net.

Today’s tale is taken from a British expats forum and is comprised of two posts – one from 2006 and the other five years later.

This is an excellent essay on what the Kiwi Lifestyle is really all about for one family in Hamilton, and an indication of what the future may hold for YOU when you emigrate to New Zealand.

2006

I don’t know, we’ve been here for just over a year and a half and are beginning to have our doubts.

The work ethic thing is true, I get customers ringing me up at 9pm on Saturday nights asking me technical questions.

I can’t believe anyone really thinks the average kiwi regularly goes abroad. Most that we speak to have maybe done the OE thing in their youth and apart from that have been to Melbourne a couple of times.

I wouldn’t say they’re all considerate neighbours….many have a “fack em” attitiude, crank up the stereo, rev their big bore jap import at 5am or burn their waste when you’ve got your washing out.

All comments about hosing here are true. If you want a decent place you’ll need to build it yourself.

Regards to money and wages. A LOT of kiwis we know make ends meet and that’s about it. I had no intention of starting a business here but it seems the only way to get a living wage [*1]. If my other half didn’t have pommie pounds to live mortgage free there’s no way we could stay here. House prices to wages are probably as bad as the UK. Please don’t confuse average with median when talking about wages and house prices. One thing is for sure though, if we can’t make it work here then there are dozens of other countries we’d try before going back to the UK.

The supermarkets end up with all the crap food…all the best stuff goes abroad. We’ve ended up buying a chest freezer and going 1/4′s on “a beast”.

As much as I think Don Brash is a pr!ck, his comments about the talent going to Australia (and further afield) are true and it seems to be a disproportionate amount of the “dregs” are left in New Zealand.

Clean and green is a complete myth. Kiwi’s are a filthy lot compared to Europe. The statistics probably don’t show this though but we regularly see farmers just digging holes for rubbish or people burning waste. The cars are dirty too. The “heating” issue also stinks…literally. Our eyes literally sting from the stinking chimneys around here on cold winter evenings.

From a crime perspective NZ has a higher violent and sexual crime rate than the UK. I think burglaries are worse too but I can’t remember that 100%

They have FAR too many politicians

The TV is abysmal.

Drink driving is a popular hobby.

They’re not animal lovers. You will be appalled when you see how the cockies and pig stickers (yes, you did read that properly) treat their dogs.

They are as tight as ducks arses with regards to money (if they don’t know you). Second hand items like cars, electronics, furniture & clothing seem to depreciate much less than they do in the UK. Hell, this USED door mat pretty much sums it up.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Home-living…n-63329298.htm

[2].

The “lifestyle” thing is great though. Kiwis aren’t quite so anal as the British about inviting you into their home. There’s less of the “keep up with the Jones or we’ll look down our noses at you’”. People generally talk to each other (try that in SE England). Generally more “freedom” to do activities (walking, cycling, horse-riding, surfing, etc) that comes with just having more space per person.

Most important point if you’re thinking of coming here:- When a Kiwi asks “Do you like New Zealand?” they’re not really asking. Your reply should be “it’s awesome/fabulous/cool/special” etc etc. The take great offence if you criticise their country.

Just my tuppenceworth

[1] I’ve noticed a LOT of “normal” employed kiwi’s have an almost non-existent part time business for the sole purpose of claiming expenses.
[2] There are few bargains on trademe (kiwi…sorry…Australian owned kiwi version of Ebay with crap facilities and poor search engine).

January 2011

Well, since my last post in 06, not a lot has changed. If anything, I feel my previous comments about poor housing, drink driving and anti-social neighbors have been backed up by more experience.

Moved a few k’s up the road and spent all our (and then some) hard earned “pommie pounds” on a “lifestyle” block. Little slice of heaven; for a couple of years until the local council shafted us, swept our objections under the carpet and put a dog pound up < 300m away. Serves me right for declining the invitation from the local freemasons. Guess I’d best save up my pennies for the double glazing (did I mention poor housing?).

I’ve noticed that the majority of my friends around here are foreigners (Dutch, Japanese, English, Scottish…some lived here for 30 years). This was not intentional, I’ve got a handful of good kiwi buddies in the area but I got sick of banging my head off a wall. I think it’s a small town thing as seemed to click much quicker with my friends in Wellington and Palmy (ongoing debate, but IMHO Hamilton is far worse than Palmy).

Cost of living seems to have skyrocketed but income has hardly increased. This is probably old news to everyone. By pretending to have assimilated, I’ve offset this somewhat by doing what the locals do (working 60 hours a week, 2nd job, paying tradesmen cash, terrible DIY jobs, bartering, maxing out credit card, maxing out other credit card, fortnightly trip to PAK N SAVE, homekills, disconnecting speedo on diesel, burning trash, driving with no rego for the odd month, drinking local home-brew and cheap alcohol although I draw the line at drinking HAAST or Ranfurly beer. I’m considering the other popular Kiwi income stream : claiming WINZ, or making a dodgy ACC claim whilst working on the side. Maybe I should just get into the burglary business as most of the rich farmers leave their places unlocked and to be honest, you’d have to murder someone twice to do gaol time here.

With fuel costs its tricky, but I have to escape the area at least once a fortnight. Two weekends on the trot and I start growling at people. I would suggest having a sport or hobby that frequently entails getting the hell out of dodge as being essential to any ex pat living in small town eNZed. With good friends in other towns, at least I’m not getting stung for motels or dossing in the car as much these days.

Money worries aside, I’m now in the situation of being BORED OUT MY SKULL. Were I 20 years older I guess I’d be like a pig in poo. Or maybe not as savings are all gone. Career opportunities out in the wop wops are rare and the job situation nationwide is dire. Wondering if it’s this town and whether moving to outskirts of Wellywood would solve many issues. Missus reckons if we’re getting jobs, restarting business, making friends, etc all from scratch again we’d be as well in OZ.

My attitude is all wrong and I’m not trying hard enough, obviously.

Another RWC 2011 Rip-Off Story – Waikato Hotels Warned

December 15, 2010 Leave a comment

Another cautionary tale about rip off prices during the 2011 Rugby World Cup has emerged.

Ceana Priest, writing for the Waikato Times said that Waikato motels have been warned not to price gouge ahead of the RWC:

Waikato Motel Association president Mike Ward said hiking up room rates during peak demand was a “bloody rip-off” and would be detrimental to the region long-term.

His comments come ahead of Waikato Stadium hosting three RWC matches in September and October…”

The report went on to state that a standard guest room at the  Novotel Tainui will cost $772 during the All Blacks v. Japan match on 16 Sept 2011. The Ibis hotel is charging $625 a night and both hotels are said to have implemented a minimum three night policy. Read the full report here: Hotel Price Gouging a Bloody Rip Off.

The Waikato stadium is situated in Hamilton and only has a capacity of 25,800 according to Wikipedia, but that can be extended with the addition of temporary seating.

It was host to one of the matches of the controversial 1981 Springbok tour, when it used to be called Rugby Park. The game against Waikato was called off in front of a full house. A pitch invasion by several hundred anti-tour protestors and rumours that a light aircraft had been stolen from Taupo and was headed for Rugby Park proved too much for the authorities. (source)

Back in September 2009 we highlighted that there was an anticipated bed shortage in Hamilton during the Rugby World Cup matches and people were being warned even then not to hike prices. The impending bed shortage has been known about for some time but has any effort been made to alleviate the problem? Read Hamilton Too “Boring” for Springbok Tour, World Cup Bed Shortage:

“Accommodation shortage and price gouging
It will be interesting to see how many Rugby World Cup cup fans will decide to do the same in 2011 and fly-in for specific matches, especially as there is a reported lack of accommodation in many of the match locations. Trans-Tasmin travel is destined to become cheaper soon with the introduction of ‘domestic’ flights between NZ and Australia. See New Zealand may fall short of world cup beds (Travelmole)

Some homeowners have already been warned not to hike prices, executive homes near Eden Park are rumoured to be going for $4,000-$5,000 during the week of the final. Final tickets are estimated to cost $800 dollars and New Zealanders are already being offered 6 month buy-now-pay-later schemes…”

You may also like - Rip Off New Zealand – RWC Hotel’s Prices “Downright Robbery” 22 November 2010:

“Beck Vass, writing in today’s Herald, has highlighted the astronomical prices some New Zealand hotels are quoting for rooms during next year’s rugby world cup.

The paper cited a quote of $2,400 per night which the Novotel in Christchurch gave to a tour operator, who was too embarrassed to tell his clients that hotels were charging so much…”

For other  Rip Off NZ stories click here

Armed Offenders Squad In Nawton, Hamilton

July 22, 2010 Leave a comment

Colin Kiriona

Within hours of writing about the Armed Offenders call-out in Kamo, Whangarei this morning there was news of another AOS call-out in the town of Hamilton.

The siege has now ended but the offender escaped. Here’s what Yahoo News had to say about the incident, which may have had gang connections:

“An armed offenders squad callout in Hamilton is over after a suspected sex offender was holed up in a house in the suburb of Nawton. Police said the scene was being cleared but refused to say if the man had been apprehended or if he had fled.

The man was understood to have assaulted a woman two days ago and held her against her will. She is being treated in Waikato Hospital. Streets were cordoned off as armed police surrounded the house in Sunnyside Rd.

Police earlier believed the man, who had gang connections, may have had a firearm.”

Another report stated

Colin Kiriona, a 25-year-old Mongrel Mob member, was thought to be holed up in a Sunnyside Road property earlier this afternoon.

Members of the Armed Offenders Squad surrounded the property, using seven distraction devices, or stun grenades, before realising no one was inside the house.

A firearm was recovered at the address…

3 News understands the woman is currently in hospital for injuries sustained during the incident. She is not in critical condition, although police have said this was nearly a homicide investigation.

Police have asked members of the public to be on the lookout for Kiriona, who has a prominent tattoo of a bulldog (on his face)”

Meanwhile, staff at the Whangarei school close to this morning’s call-out have been praised for their action – read about it here

“Don’t Shoot The Messenger”

July 20, 2010 1 comment

Journalist Peter Bills has written a lively and good natured riposte to the avalanche of criticism and support attracted by his article, “NZ:100%  Pure Rip-off.”

The official ‘backlash’ is very reminiscent of the reaction that previous travel writers have caused whenever they’ve dared to offer up criticism of New Zealand, no matter how constructive (Read about the then*Minister of Tourism’s comments  in “From Netjetter to Public Enemy No.1 in The Guardian UK newspaper)

Here’s what Mr Bills had to say, in today’s Herald (emphasis ours)

So, now look what you’ve done. This missive comes to you from across the Tasman Sea in Sydney, the nearest point the author of last week’s so-called “Rip-Off New Zealand” article could find to discover sanctity from the brickbats hurled in his direction.

There was I thinking you Kiwis were a friendly, welcoming bunch for overseas visitors and I get banished to Oz for daring to question New Zealand’s sky-high prices.

I feel like some sheep stealer from 18th-century England suffering transportation to Botany Bay. Because, let’s face it, being sent to Oz is about as dubious a privilege now as it was in 1788.

Seriously, it seems that Friday’s in-depth feature touched a raw nerve among New Zealanders. The amount of interest in the Herald article has been astronomical – more than 200 emails sent to the website, in excess of 350 comments on Twitter.

Columns and editorials have been written, cartoons drawn, radio and TV interviews arranged. There have been the derisory and the derogatory. “Bog off back to the UK”
someone advised me.

And the issue even reached Government level, with your *Tourism Minister discussing what he called “these allegations”. They were a bit more than that, actually, mate – hard facts, I’m afraid.

Yet what has surprised me most has been the level of support I have received from ordinary New Zealanders.

From the sweet little old lady in the kiosk at Wellington’s Westpac stadium before Saturday night’s test match, to the exiled New Zealanders living abroad who complained volubly about the excessive prices and costs of life that drove them away from their country, the issue seems to have brought a huge outpouring of views and emotions from people.

Some thanked me fulsomely for saying “what should have been said long ago”. Others qualified their support, rightly pointing out that it isn’t just New Zealand that is guilty of rip-offs…

…A considerable number of people have either come up to me or called in the past few days to say thanks for highlighting this issue. I can tell you this in all honesty - there was no hidden agenda here. All I sought to do was express a genuinely held belief that what I was seeing was not good at all for New Zealand or its tourist business.

For, as you know, tourism is a crucial, fundamental element of your country’s GDP. Abuse it at your peril, I’d suggest.

And so on this beautiful, sunny morning as the sun glints beguilingly on Mt Cook, as the wind moves gently across the lake at Taupo and as some smooth-talking Auckland restaurateur pours two glasses of sauvignon blanc that will cost the poor, innocent consumer a ruinous $28, there is good news and bad news for you New Zealanders regarding a writer who dared to challenge the status quo.

The good news is, I’ll be in Australia for the next few weeks and then back in the Northern Hemisphere for a while.

The bad news is, I’ll be back in your fabulous country some time next year. And I’ll keep coming back because it remains one of the best places to be, filled with wonderful people, many of whom have a great sense of humour and a sense of balance in their lives.

I just hope, however, that when I’m next here, marvelling at the sights of the countryside in both islands, going for a training run around Wellington Harbour or just enjoying a yarn with someone about the All Blacks, some of those more outlandish prices have been trimmed back a bit.

If that proves to be the outcome of this little winter storm of 2010, then it will all have been worthwhile.”

We have a feeling he, and millions of Kiwis, are in for a long wait.

“NZ: 100% Pure Rip-Off”

July 20, 2010 9 comments

Oh dear, bet the guys who coined the “100% Pure NZ” are cringing right now. It will be interesting to see how well the brand’s image survives this latest onslaught on the slogan that lends itself so easily to abuse. It is currently being used to highlight how expensive New Zealand has become.

It all started with an article in the NZ Herald under the header “NZ: 100% Pure Rip-off. Rip off New Zealand?” written by Peter Bills, an international writer for Independent News & Media.

Guys, just 14 months out from the 2011 Rugby World Cup, you are sleep-walking into acquiring such an unwanted reputation worldwide.

The price of ordinary, everyday articles and living costs horrify me in this country. I’ve been here, admired the place, loved the people since 1975. I wasn’t even put off by my first ever weekend in New Zealand – 17cm of rain in 24 hours and sitting shin-deep in water at Eden Park as the All Blacks aqua-planed past Scotland in that infamous 1975 test.

But what I see today is of far, far greater concern. This place is becoming one of the most expensive I visit, one giant rip-off. And most of you seem unaware of it.”

We think not, thousands of migrants struggle to make ends meet in New Zealand, many of them attracted by baiting NZ is cheap’ campaigns,’  such as that run in Singapore recently.

“What I find here amazes me. So much so that I don’t know how most ordinary folk manage to balance their budgets. True, petrol is much cheaper than in Britain. But in just about every other field, hotels, car hire, restaurant food, wine, clothes or whatever, you’re the victims of massive overcharging.

Of course, it’s always difficult to compare like with like when speaking of different countries but this is an overall impression from someone from Europe.

I sat down for a simple lunch at a restaurant on Auckland’s waterfront last week. The sun was shining, the setting fabulous. A glass of splendid New Zealand sauvignon blanc was a delight – until we saw the price. $28 for two ordinary sized glasses? You don’t pay that in Paris or London, unless you go somewhere like the George V in Paris or London’s Ivy restaurant.”

But ordinary folk don’t balance their budgets. Many are up to their ears in debt, working two jobs and sending their kids to school hungry – 230,000 children are living in unacceptable poverty in New Zealand. As for those who like to maintain lavish lifestyles? well, there’s always good old fashioned fraud and theft to fall back on. Little wonder that crime is on the rise.

“Now let’s be fair. The NZ dollar has appreciated significantly against the pound over the course of the past 12-18 months. When I last visited NZ it was $2.40 to £1. Today, it is around $2.04. But does that explain a growing number of instances where an overseas visitor felt totally ripped off?

And there is growing evidence that it is chiefly the cities of this country who are leading this “grab what you can, make a killing” attitude towards visitors. If that is indeed the case, then it is the country areas, the less populated centres, who will suffer most.

Take car hire. Am I the only visitor to New Zealand who has ever decided that it would be better to drive from Auckland to Wellington and stop for a couple of nights somewhere to see the North Island? It hardly struck me as a revolutionary idea, yet this set me up as a target for just about every major hire car firm in Auckland.

Hertz demanded an outrageous $300 drop-off fee if I wanted to leave the car in Wellington. Yet isn’t that what 90 per cent of visitors would do if they were touring, especially going on to the South Island? Companies such as Avis, Europcar and others were demanding only slightly smaller amounts. Some didn’t even have a drop facility in Wellington…

…Parking in one city centre carpark in Wellington this week was $9 an hour, $39 for four hours. In Monte Carlo, the first hour’s parking at public carparks is, er, free.

Then there are the hotels. This weekend in Wellington at the InterContinental, a king room costs $410. Now it is rugby test weekend and it has club facilities but even so. £205 a room? You might pay that in New York or London but not in most European capitals. And just imagine what on earth such a room will cost on the weekend of October 8/9 next year when Wellington hosts two of the Rugby World Cup quarter-finals.

The capital city costs a fortune and it’s not just an Englishman who thinks so. In the winter of 2008, in the company of several visiting South African writers, we sat down in a harbourside restaurant. When the menus arrived, we were so horrified by the prices we all got up and walked out. It was daylight robbery.

Last week, at Kermadec in Auckland, one main lunch dish was $33. In the evening, entrees were $25, mains around $42 with desserts $18. The wines were equally expensive. In a Takapuna restaurant, also last week, a bottle of Stoneleigh pinot noir cost $48. I could take you to a dozen restaurants in Nice where you’d drink a perfectly good French wine for nothing near that amount….”

Welcome to New Zealand, 100Pure. So long as someone is prepared to pay those sort of prices people are going to charge them. It’s a free market economy. Perhaps more people should be “horrified by the prices” and ‘get up and walk out’ and spend less time being mollified by the scenery? Whilst they’re absorbed in gazing at those vistas, searching for the lifestyle and dangling from the end of bungy cords they’ll not feel their pockets emptying until it’s too late (In NZ, everything – even the scenery – comes with a price tag)

“Does any of this matter? After all, it’s only tourists who might get fleeced and they won’t be back every year (ed. only tourists?! quite a few immigrants would take issue with that remark) And the Rugby World Cup which is being held here next year might be the last time it is hosted exclusively by New Zealand. So hey guys, grab what you can in hiked up profits, make a fortune and smile all the way to the bank. Right? No, wrong, dead wrong. (ed. why not? it’s been going on for 150 years and has worked just fine)

New Zealanders will be dumb if they even think of such a philosophy. The World Cup ought to be an event that showcases the whole country to visitors from every corner of the globe. They should go home extolling the virtues of this land. Think long term, six or even 16 years of profits on the back of that scenario, not a money grab operation spanning six weeks which will persuade many visitors never to return.

Already, the word is getting out in an international sense that New Zealand is getting expensive. The fact is, you just can’t afford to allow that image to take root. You’re too far away from the rest of the world to afford such a scenario. In Paris, Rome, London or New York they can get away with that purely due to population numbers in those parts of the world. It is very different here. International travellers are not fools; fewer will come if New Zealand is known as too expensive…” read the whole article here

New Zealand draws most of its international travellers from Australia, most of them just a few hours flight time away from New Zealand. Other fans from wider afield are said to be basing themselves in cities like Sydney and plan to fly in and out for matches, or watch the games in 3D cinemas, outdoor venues, bars etc.  There’s only so much that can be done in New Zealand during winter and who’d want to hang around for longer than they’d have to?

Some of the visiting teams may decide to do the same. In September last year the Springboks decided to give ‘boring Hamilton’ a miss and jet in from the Gold Coast, Australia, for a match. How many teams will do the same next year is anyone’s guess but who will blame them for wanting a bit of sun, sea and sand?

The Herald today published another contribution on this subject, this time from former All Black Justin Marshall who agreed that New Zealand is expensive and not just for visitors, he admitted that he’d ignored the warnings from friends that New Zealand was more expensive than Britain:

When former All Black halfback Justin Marshall left for England five years ago, a litre of petrol cost about $1.30. He remembers a flat white coffee costing about $3 and a beer at his local about $6. But since his return to New Zealand about a month ago, Marshall has noticed his British pounds are not going as far as he had hoped. “I think five years ago you could get a coffee for around $3 or $3.50 but I wouldn’t think there would be many places you’d get one for under $4,” he said. “Petrol is now close to $1.80 a litre and if you’re drinking quality lagers in a pub, a lot of the bars are charging up towards the $10 mark. “It’s expensive and something you can’t help but notice.”

Marshall, 36, agreed with rugby correspondent Peter Bills that New Zealand was an expensive country – and not just for visitors. Bills – sounding a caution ahead of next year’s Rugby World Cup – said the prices of everyday articles had “horrified” him and Kiwis were “victims of massive overcharging”. He said New Zealand was becoming “one giant rip-off”.

Marshall, an 81-test All Black who is now a Sky TV rugby comments man, said his rugby friends had also warned him that the cost of living had become higher in New Zealand than in Britain. “All of my mates who had come home kept saying to me that I needed to be aware that the expense of living in New Zealand is something you really have to take into account … It really has become an expensive country to live in.”

He said his weekly grocery spend in Britain was between £150 and £200 ($323-$431) to feed his family of five. Here, the bill is $400 to $500 a week.

“I’ve really noticed it with things like cheese, milk and bread and butter … When I was in the UK I bought a leg of imported New Zealand lamb for 17 quid [$36.60]. I bought the same thing here and it was close to $40. “Even when you take the exchange rate into account, it still costs more to buy our own meat here.”

New Zealand Beef & Lamb chief executive Rod Slater said Marshall was “pretty much on the mark” and said prices for export lamb in Britain, our biggest market, were generally “on a par” with prices here. Mr Slater said this parity was partly because of New Zealanders paying GST on food whereas consumers in Britain did not. “So that’s 12.5 per cent right there.

“The other thing is a huge part of the lamb sold in the UK is frozen, whereas we get it fresh here. Our currencies have come closer together as well. I mean, not long ago it was $3 to one pound; now it’s two to one, so that has made a difference, too.” Marshall said retailers, hoteliers and people in the hospitality industry were in a Catch-22 situation with next year’s Rugby World Cup looming.

But he agreed with Cup chief executive Martin Snedden, who expressed concerns that rorting visitors could damage the country’s reputation. “You want people to come to NZ and see it for what it is,” Marshall said, “but in the same breath we want to make money … It’s an opportunity to maximise businesses and maximise what New Zealand has to offer and people are going to be here anyway.

“It’s very difficult to pull away from that opportunity when it is so evidently going to be in your face but you want those people who come here to go back to the UK and not talk about how difficult they found it to find cheap hotels or how expensive it was to go out for dinner.”… read more here

Little wonder that well over 500,000 New Zealanders live in Australia and a similar number in Britain, they know when they’re onto a good thing.

Enough of our thoughts on this. Let’s take a wider view and look at the responses this article drew from people who live, or have lived, in New Zealand and see what prospective visitors and migrants can learn from their comments.

This is a sample from the  TravelMSN site where there was a massive response on a very emotive topic:

NZ a giant rip-off?

kiwi rip off
Posted by: Nick, auckland, on 19/07/2010 9:50:59 PM
I am a recently returned Kiwi and about to become a recently departed one. New Zealand has become, very sadly, ridiculously expensive and there seems little reason for it other than blatant profiteering. the result is an escalation in crime and an influx of the rich. I feel terribly sad to have lost my homeland and very let down by the politicians who are responsible yet unaccountable. If anyone is likely to save this country I for one think it will be the Maori and good luck to them, they are fighting for the values the pakeha seem to have abandoned and I feel ashamed.

Land of Milk & Honey?
Posted by: ndawoodz,Wellington, on19/07/2010 10:38:16 AM
I wish I could disagree…but alas! Single mother of two, prices for food are ridiculous! With pride I have often said, “this is the land of milk & honey”. Seemingly the best of our milk & honey etc gets exported overseas & foreigners get NZ quality produced goods, for cheaper than us!! What!!?? This is seriously not good, us that live here contribute to our economy & I am now left wondering…for what?. The rest of my family had moved to Oz many years ago, so when I visit them I often spend hours in their supermarkets looking at the huge array of variety & prices. The Australians & co are definitely spoilt for choices & prices. Of course us Kiwis are not happy about…but we don’t get any options…Just do what your told! Hmmmmn maybe another family off to Oz soon!…great economy, realistic wages & apparently cheaper NZ produce!

Have to agree
Posted by: goldie, Auckland, on 19/07/2010 9:02:16 AM
Having just moved back to Auckland after 10 yrs living in Europe, the USA and Hong Kong I have to say that I agree mostly that NZ is over priced. Also the quality of things like clothing is crap here compaired to the UK and the USA. I have been looking to set up a house and the choices in furniture and beding etc are pretty poor here. I have just ordered a whole lot of 100% cotton beding from the UK at a much cheaper price (including shipping) than I can get here in NZ. I will be buying most of my clothes from the UK and the USA as the colour choices here (black or red neither of which I wear) are so limited that I can go into every clothing shop in the likes of St Lukes and not find anything in a colour that I would wear. Also most of the clothes we get here are synthetic fabric and I only wear natural fibers. Food here is also very expensive. My supermarket shop is about twice as expensive here as it was in the UK. As much as I love NZ I do find it to be overpriced!

i agree
Posted by: Gemz, Wellington nz , on 19/07/2010 7:02:59 AM
I am a english lass, lived in nz for almost 6 years now and i agree with the reporter. Houses are cheaper here, cars and petrol but thats about it. Clothes are very expensive and i do not agree that they are better quality. Food is totally over priced, its cheaper to buy new zealand lamb in britain then here……what the hell is up with that. Wine is over priced here everything is, they seem to sell nz products to other countrys for much cheaper and then make us pay prices through the roof. Its stupid. New zealand is a beautiful country and i love living here, can hardly afford to live here as the ongoing problem with price rising and wages not rising. Somthing must be done.

NZ a giant rip off?
Posted by: Linds, Te Pahu, on 19/07/2010 5:32:59 AM
Having just returned from a trip overseas to both Italy and the UK and I can vouch for certainty that in NZ we are ripped off for food and clothes in our shops. But then European countries don’t seem to add the equivalent of GST to food or clothing as these are, rightly, considered essentials for everyday living. So why do we put up with this tax on essentials in NZ? As for accommodation, car hire, eating out and wine, NZ is cheaper but then our average incomes are, I reckon, over 40% down on most European countries. One thing most noticeable about the European countries we visited is the abundant affluence as manifested by the huge numbers of new cars on the roads plus the shops, restaurants and pubs were mostly full of customers spending freely. They seem to have fully recovered from the recession.

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